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Monday, April 08, 2024
Question For The Honest Man
Yeshua was limited in knowledge. He claimed not to know everything.
“But no one knows about that day and hour, not the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father alone."
"Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 are problematic for Trinitarians, who are forced to say that Jesus’ human side had limited knowledge and did not know the time of the events of the End, but his God nature had unlimited knowledge and did know the time. But there are huge problems with that assertion. One is that the Bible never says it was only Jesus’ human nature that did not know but his God nature did know. That is only assumed because it makes Trinitarian doctrine work. Furthermore, it cannot be explained how Jesus could have had both limited and unlimited knowledge at the same time. Theologians refer to it as communicatio idiomatum, but that is just Latin for “the communication of the properties,” and it does not explain how Jesus’ two natures could co-exist; it just assumes they do.
Trinitarians also assert that the two natures, God and man, existing simultaneously is a mystery, but again, the Bible never even says the two natures exist in Christ, much less that it is a mystery. About mysteries, Roger Olson wrote: “We must point out here the difference between mystery and contradiction; the former is something that cannot be fully explained to or comprehended by the human mind, whereas the latter is just nonsense—two concepts that cancel each other out and together make an absurdity.” Although Olson wrote about the mysteries of Calvinism, his comment about mysteries applies equally to the “mysteries” created by the doctrine of the Trinity. We assert that it is a clear contradiction that Jesus is both 100% God and 100% man." (REV Commentary)
But here is the loudest question for the honest man: If "only the Father alone knows the day nor the hour" does this not also limit the knowledge of the holy spirit? After all, is the holy spirit not the presumed third person of the Trinity, of the same essence and omnipresence?
The Trinity is a false doctrine not even mentioned until after 300 years of Christianity. It is not a mystery. It is a contradiction.
This is a pencil. It is also a banana. It is yellow and can be eaten. Is this a mystery or a contradiction? In any case, this proposition is an absurdity. So is the three-person but one God trinity doctrine.
Bonus question for the Orthodox Christian: Why is the holy spirit rarely, if ever, mentioned in the council debates? It's all about the nature of Yeshua and his shared essence with the Father. The holy spirit isn't mentioned or solidified as a part of the trinity doctrine until years after the Council of Nice. The 325 Nicean Creed simply states that the holy spirit is believed in. 80 years later, the creed was revised to clarify the fluid and innovative doctrine...and the Trinity Doctrine was born.
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Thursday, April 04, 2024
The Only True God
"And this is life in the age to come, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." John 17:3
John 17:3, REV Bible and Commentary (revisedenglishversion.com)
“the only true God.” This is similar to John 5:44 and is one of the many places that gives good evidence that Jesus Christ is not God. When Jesus prayed and called God “the only true God,” he was simply acknowledging a truth that was clearly stated in the Old Testament: For example, Nehemiah 9:6-7 says, “You are Yahweh, even you alone. You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens with all their army, the earth and all things that are on it, the seas and all that is in them, and you preserve them all. The army of heaven worships you. You are Yahweh, the God who chose Abram” (cp. Ps. 86:10; Isa. 37:16; 43:11; 45:5). Yahweh is the Father and “the God,” the “only true God” that Jesus recognized and prayed to.
The Trinity, the doctrine that “God” is both three and one at the same time is mysterious, incomprehensible, and unbiblical. It is never described in the Bible and attempts to come close to explaining it have to use language that is not in the Bible. For example, that Jesus is said to be both “100% human and 100% God” is both unbiblical and self-contradictory. Also, the Trinity doctrine says there are three “persons” in the one God, but then Trinitarians are quick to state that “persons” does not actually mean “persons” in the ordinary sense, but then they cannot exactly define “person” in the Trinitarian sense. That is because a “person” is an individual, but the “persons” in the Trinity are not individuals in the ordinary sense, but are part of “the one God,” so they are persons but not persons at the same time.
Trinitarians say that God is “one what and three whos,” but that is, as stated above, both incomprehensible and unbiblical. When we read the Bible, God always speaks of Himself as one being. He uses “I” and “me” and “my,” and never refers to Himself as an “essence” or “nature.” The same is true of Jesus. John 17:3 is clear, succinct, and understandable: God is “the only true God,” and He “sent” His Son, Jesus Christ, who is a human being (1 Tim. 2:5).
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Wednesday, January 17, 2024
With Whom Are You Sleeping?
‘You
can't have Christianity without the Trinity. It's clearly an essential
doctrine.’ Well, I beg to differ. It seems to me that in about the first 300
years, Christianity did rather well. But, there isn't the Triune-God teaching in
any of those early sources. When it first comes in is right about the year of
381, which was also the time that mainstream, Bishop-led Christianity got in
bed with the Roman Empire and used the empire to enforce their ideas about
heresy. Dr. Dale Tuggy
Monday, December 04, 2023
Jesus Is Subject To Yahweh
"And when all things have been put in subjection to him, then the Son will subject himself to Him who put all things in subjection to him, so that God is all in all."
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