Jesus Is Subject To Yahweh

 

"And when all things have been put in subjection to him, then the Son will subject himself to Him who put all things in subjection to him, so that God is all in all."

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Did God Waffle?

...""O, my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me..."

If Jesus was God, why did he waffle?

 

#Walkaway Why I am Not a Trinitarian

How Can Jesus BE God If He HAS a God?

...and, no, you can't say "it is just Jesus' human nature talking", because your own Council of Chalcedon established that Jesus' two (proposed) natures could not be divided.

"...be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Matt. 27:46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" (that is, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?")

Mark 15:34

And at the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" (which is translated, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?")

John 20:17

Jesus said to her, "Do not touch me, because I have not yet gone up to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am going up to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.' "

Romans 15:6

So that in one accord you can, with one mouth, glorify the God and Father *of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(*of: indicating an association between two entities, typically one of belonging.) 

2 Cor. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort.

2 Cor. 11:31

The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, he who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.

Eph. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in union with Christ with every spiritual blessing in heavenly places.

Eph. 1:17

That the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, will give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.

Heb. 1:9

You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness rather than your companions.

1 Pet. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy has given us new birth to a living hope by means of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from among the dead.

Rev. 1:6

And has made us to be a kingdom, as priests to his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen

Rev. 3:2

Wake up, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die, for I have not found your works completed in the sight of my God.

Rev. 3:12

Whoever overcomes, I will make a pillar in the sanctuary of my God, and he will absolutely not go out from there anymore, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God), and my own new name.

Have Orthodox Christians Lost the Ability To Reason?

Argument #1

No one has ever seen God. (John 1:18)

Jesus was seen.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

The Orthodox and other Trinitarians use the popular argument that Jesus was "fully God and fully man", "two in one", a human nature and a God nature. For one to have never seen God, this argument would require that people who walked with Jesus only saw his human nature.

Argument #2

God cannot die.

Jesus Died.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

Again, the Orthodox and other Trinitarians use the popular argument that Jesus was "fully God and fully man", "two in one", a human nature and a God nature. For Jesus to have died, this argument would require that it was only Jesus' human nature that died on the cross and not the God nature.

However: Have you forgotten your own Counsel of Chalcedon? This creed was adopted at the Fourth Ecumenical Council, held at Chalcedon, located in what is now Turkey, in 451, as a response to certain heretical views concerning the nature of Christ. It established the orthodox view that Christ has two natures (human and divine) that are unified in one person. However, according to the Orthodox belief, Jesus' two natures cannot be divided:

"...be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Orthodox doctrine requires that Jesus' two natures cannot be divided therefore, if 

1. No man has seen God and people saw Jesus and 

2. God cannot die and Jesus died... 

JESUS IS NOT GOD according to your own doctrine. 

Conclusion:

The Creed of the Counsel of Chalcedon is heretical and contradicts scripture. It was a continuation of the heretical Trinity doctrine that crept into the church at the latter part of the second century.

Truth: There is ONE God and no other. 

Jesus in the son of God, not God the son, and was immaculately conceived as a human. 

The Holy Spirit is the power and presence of the Father.

There is no Trinity, there is no three-part entity called God. This is a pagan, greek, Babylonian philosophy that is in direct contradiction of the scripture.

Christianity is and has always been Monotarian not Trinitarian.

This is what convinced me Jesus is not God

13 Above YouTube Forum

I participated in a live on-line discussion. Answering a judgmental Catholic and sharing the Unitarian Faith as a former Orthodox Christian. I enter the forum at 45:18.

 

Believe It All Or None At All

 

A Gift For Indoctrinated Individuals

Vaughn Gerda Randall

To the indoctrinated individuals incapable of independent thought, you have been blinded by bias and there’s no proof for reality that you can see. For those of you who are intellectually honest and willing to question your beliefs I give you these ten points to consider.

1. The natural physics of a large body of water are to be level and need a container. This alone debunks the lie that the earth is a globe. Engineers and cartographers proved that large bodies of waters do not and can not display convexity on their surfaces with seven experiments with extremely precise measurements in the documentary Convex Earth.

2. An airplane flies straight and level for thousands of miles at hundreds of miles per hour and never adjusts its nose downward to maintain a certain altitude to account for earths alleged curvature or alleged rotation. Commercial and military pilots have proven the earth is flat and stationary by their real world applications in the documentary Flatten The Curve by Vikka Draziv.

3. There are literally thousands of examples of seeing things above the horizon at far distances that would be impossible to see if the earth were a sphere with a 3,959 mile radius. The Taboo Conspiracy Channel has dozens of experiments with measurements proving this. The creator of that channel has a juris doctorate and two master degrees. Accusations that flat earthers are stupid is ignorant and arrogant.

4. There is not one real photo of the entire earth and all images showing the earth as a globe are cgi composites. NASA never went to the moon and there is no space station. The Iss is at best a high altitude aircraft 10-15 miles away. NASA is referred to by some in the CIA as Not A Space Agency. They lie about almost everything.

5. Satellites don’t exist except on balloons. You think China would need a spy satellite on a balloon if satellites in space existed? If satellites were real we would see them transit between us and the moon almost every night. We never do.

6. Eclipses run on a 19 year cycle and were predicted accurately thousands of years ago by ancient cultures who knew the earth is flat and stationary. The sun and moon are about the same size and altitude. The earth is far larger than both of them. The earth is not a planet, it is not in space. It is not casting a shadow on the moon. A selenelion eclipse is when both sun and moon can still be seen above the horizon proving it is not earths shadow on the moon.

7. A civilization before us built amazing structures everywhere across the surface of earth and many of them align perfectly with the sun and moon during the solstices and equinoxes. And they still align perfectly today. These huge structures were built with perfect symmetry, sacred geometry and cymatic patterns by people who knew the earth is flat and stationary. They didn’t believe the earth is flat, they knew it was, as do flat earthers today.

8. The entire heliocentric hypothesis is based on the unproven theories of dark matter and dark energy. These two unproven theories make up 96% of the model which is why Neil degrasse Tyson says he and mainstream scientists are 96% stupid about the universe. The globe is not a working model it has the 3 body problem which is unsolvable.

9. The Coriolis force is a farce. It is a lie. If it were true a helicopter could hover for 12 hours and land on the other side of the magic space ball earth. A sniper doesn’t account for earths alleged rotation for a bullet which is in the air for a few seconds and a professional golfer doesn’t account for earths alleged rotation for a golf ball which is in the air for much longer than a bullet. The Foucault pendulum has to be pushed to start and often stops and has to be restarted. If Coriolis were true then all pendulums would move but all across the earth they hang motionless in perfect stillness.

10. The earth is an enclosed electric topographical stationary plane. All true science confirms it. The globe is a delusion based on assumptions with massive contradictions inconsistencies and impossibilities. All alleged science for the globe is actually pseudoscience which is nothing more than claims without evidence. The earth being flat and stationary is not a claim, it is an observation which has been measured and can be repeated by almost anyone. The globe is a claim without evidence. If the earth is a globe you would be able to prove it with observable measurable repeatable results. It has never been done because it can’t be done. Welcome to flat earth.

Sincerely,

Keith Cameron Smith

PS For more information, search for these channels directly on YouTube.... nothing but misinformation will come up with generic searches anymore... then you have to click on videos after you’re on their channel to see all they have. YouTube only shows a few on their main page.

Taboo Conspiracy.

Flat Earth Sun Moon Zodiac

Vikka Draziv

Globebusters

ODDtv

Hibeller Productions.

Eric Dubay

Flat Out Truth

Flat Earth Banjo USA Japan

Founded Earth Brothers

DITRH