Dale Tuggy and James White debate: "Is Jesus YHWH?" (best quality, with ...

Jesus Has A God- After The Ascension And In The Kindgom To Come

With Whom Are You Sleeping?

 

‘You can't have Christianity without the Trinity. It's clearly an essential doctrine.’ Well, I beg to differ. It seems to me that in about the first 300 years, Christianity did rather well. But, there isn't the Triune-God teaching in any of those early sources. When it first comes in is right about the year of 381, which was also the time that mainstream, Bishop-led Christianity got in bed with the Roman Empire and used the empire to enforce their ideas about heresy. Dr. Dale Tuggy Trinities – Theories about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

Jesus Is Subject To Yahweh

 

"And when all things have been put in subjection to him, then the Son will subject himself to Him who put all things in subjection to him, so that God is all in all."

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Did God Waffle?

...""O, my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me..."

If Jesus was God, why did he waffle?

 

#Walkaway Why I am Not a Trinitarian

How Can Jesus BE God If He HAS a God?

...and, no, you can't say "it is just Jesus' human nature talking", because your own Council of Chalcedon established that Jesus' two (proposed) natures could not be divided.

"...be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Matt. 27:46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" (that is, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?")

Mark 15:34

And at the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" (which is translated, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?")

John 20:17

Jesus said to her, "Do not touch me, because I have not yet gone up to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am going up to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.' "

Romans 15:6

So that in one accord you can, with one mouth, glorify the God and Father *of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(*of: indicating an association between two entities, typically one of belonging.) 

2 Cor. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort.

2 Cor. 11:31

The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, he who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.

Eph. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in union with Christ with every spiritual blessing in heavenly places.

Eph. 1:17

That the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, will give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.

Heb. 1:9

You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness rather than your companions.

1 Pet. 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy has given us new birth to a living hope by means of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from among the dead.

Rev. 1:6

And has made us to be a kingdom, as priests to his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen

Rev. 3:2

Wake up, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die, for I have not found your works completed in the sight of my God.

Rev. 3:12

Whoever overcomes, I will make a pillar in the sanctuary of my God, and he will absolutely not go out from there anymore, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God), and my own new name.

Have Orthodox Christians Lost the Ability To Reason?

Argument #1

No one has ever seen God. (John 1:18)

Jesus was seen.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

The Orthodox and other Trinitarians use the popular argument that Jesus was "fully God and fully man", "two in one", a human nature and a God nature. For one to have never seen God, this argument would require that people who walked with Jesus only saw his human nature.

Argument #2

God cannot die.

Jesus Died.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

Again, the Orthodox and other Trinitarians use the popular argument that Jesus was "fully God and fully man", "two in one", a human nature and a God nature. For Jesus to have died, this argument would require that it was only Jesus' human nature that died on the cross and not the God nature.

However: Have you forgotten your own Counsel of Chalcedon? This creed was adopted at the Fourth Ecumenical Council, held at Chalcedon, located in what is now Turkey, in 451, as a response to certain heretical views concerning the nature of Christ. It established the orthodox view that Christ has two natures (human and divine) that are unified in one person. However, according to the Orthodox belief, Jesus' two natures cannot be divided:

"...be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Orthodox doctrine requires that Jesus' two natures cannot be divided therefore, if 

1. No man has seen God and people saw Jesus and 

2. God cannot die and Jesus died... 

JESUS IS NOT GOD according to your own doctrine. 

Conclusion:

The Creed of the Counsel of Chalcedon is heretical and contradicts scripture. It was a continuation of the heretical Trinity doctrine that crept into the church at the latter part of the second century.

Truth: There is ONE God and no other. 

Jesus in the son of God, not God the son, and was immaculately conceived as a human. 

The Holy Spirit is the power and presence of the Father.

There is no Trinity, there is no three-part entity called God. This is a pagan, greek, Babylonian philosophy that is in direct contradiction of the scripture.

Christianity is and has always been Monotarian not Trinitarian.

This is what convinced me Jesus is not God