"Nathan clearly fears retribution from ROCOR hierarchy, not acting on his conscience. There's a clear pattern where he is very gentle to hierarchs and their lackeys."
What is a drive-by comment? It is a lazy commenter who drives by JTO and ignorantly fires off an attack comment directed at JTO, which is obviously false. It would behoove the commenter to read a bit more. At the very least, look at the column to the right side of the JTO blog to see the most visited posts, all of which, at the very least, are not "gentle" to the ROCOR Hierarchs and date back to 2018. Rather, they are directed prophetic words indicting the ROCOR Hierarchs and even encouraging others, you the readers, to "Rise up" and confront those who are enabling such deviants to continue to destroy the people they claim to pastor.
For the sake of this lazy commenter and others with similar anemia, I have posted links to several of the JTO posts that expose the ROCOR hierarchy. JTO will wait for the commenter to show integrity by issuing another comment correcting this false statement. Unless, of course, the commenter enjoys the anonymity in issuing such ad hominems and the commenter's role as a "lackey" of the literally challenged.
Commenter! How can you read these and say, "There is a clear pattern where he is gentle to hierarchs and their lackeys", unless you haven't read them...
Journey To orthodoxy: Rape and the Holy Man - The Alleged Sexual Crime of a ROCOR Priest
Journey To orthodoxy: A Blast Is Coming, ROCOR
Journey To orthodoxy: Rape and the Holy Man Part Three -All are Punished!
Journey To orthodoxy: Is There Not One ROCOR Bishop Who Will Act?
Journey To orthodoxy: ROCOR Bishops Were Warned
Journey To orthodoxy: "They Must Be Plucked Out"
Journey To orthodoxy: The DNA Of Methods And Tactics
Journey To orthodoxy: ROCOR, Are You Next?
Journey To orthodoxy: Does ROCOR "Fear God and Care What People Think?" Perhaps They Should
Journey To orthodoxy: What Did Bishop Nicholas Know and When Did He Know It?
Journey To orthodoxy: Rise Up People of God!
Journey To orthodoxy: To Orthodox Hierarchy: "What Is Your Game?
Journey To orthodoxy: A Mother Maligned
Journey To orthodoxy: A Summary Of The FMW/ROCOR Matter
Journey To orthodoxy: Comment Profile on Father Matthew Williams
Journey To orthodoxy: Father Matthew Williams Has "Formerly Resigned"
Journey To orthodoxy: "They Look Like Men"
Journey To orthodoxy: Appeal To His Eminence NICHOLAS
Journey To orthodoxy: Hey ROCOR, Do You Concur?
Journey To orthodoxy: Happy New Year - ROCOR Style
Journey To orthodoxy: Does ROCOR Have A Systemic Problem?
Journey To orthodoxy: ROCOR and Sexual Misconduct
Journey To orthodoxy: Rape and the Holy Man Part Four - Sincerely, Carole Anne Stephens
Journey To orthodoxy: Comment to A Commenter on Rape and the Holy Man
Let's be honest, most of your time is spent attacking God.
ReplyDeleteI did not know that! Surely you have put me on your prayer list? Perhaps you can email me and enlighten me. You can email me at journeytoorthodoxy@gmail.com. That's not as fun as anonymous drive-by Red Herring comments, but it would give more credibility to your stated desire to be honest. When we talk by email you might honestly mention the comment at the top of this post and admit how dishonest it was and how it was clearly debunked. Let's be honest, anything other than this and you risk exposing your own "clear pattern" of engaging in personal attacks and your "fear" of engaging on the topics being discussed.
DeleteBlasphemy against the holy spirit is the only unforgivable sin. It cannot be washed away by the blood of martyrdom.
DeleteA red herring is a tool used in argument. The red herring fallacy causes a distraction in an argument that draws attention off-topic. Because of this, a red herring is a type of logical fallacy. A red herring is a way for a speaker to win an argument by bringing up a matter that is irrelevant to the main issue.
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DeleteYou realize your Zealotry only works against you right? You hold no moral high ground here. No one cares who you are, people like you add nothing to the conversation.
Only more of the you’re bad I’m good so I’m going to heaven, God sees what I do good so I’m going to a good place mindset.
Btw is doing good for the ulterior motive of gaining something even in the Lords Paradise considered good and altruistic? Also Pride is a sin so, if we’re going to go ahead and accuse the people who want this evil exposed of sin. Shall I start backtracking and showing your sin in defense of these perverts?
Boohoo, the bad man is saying things that shake my belief to the core. So instead of bothering to reevaluate what I believed in I’m just going to double down on it because I’ve spent X years doing what I thought would get me into heaven.
You don’t be good because you think it’ll get you into heaven, you do good because that in itself is the right thing and inherently good thing to do.
What zealotry? I'm not even Orthodox (go Coptic!), but you can tell that the way of thinking really stuck with Nathan. He ended up leaving the church after waiting years to be promoted from reader and it never happened. I just want him to use his platform to continue to hold ROCOR accountable.
DeleteThanks, Anon 10:47. The real shame is that the commenter is Coptic and has no idea of my love for relationship with, and defense of the Coptic people and their church. I have never met a Coptic Christian or priest that I did not admire and who didn't show the utmost love and respect toward me...until now. I am fairly certain the Coptic Christians believe in the Ten Commandments. The commenter violated the Ninth by bearing false witness against me. Our Father God knows the thoughts and intents of our hearts- even on blogs. I hope the commenter's priest and the prompting of the Holy Spirit will hold Anon 1:12 accountable for the sake of their soul. Absent this, 1:12 risks becoming a bitter, sinful, calloused accuser of the brethren. I usually remove ad hominem comments but have left this one in the hope that JTO and others may speak truth to this vitriolic individual.
Delete...in case you don't know what a Red Herring argument does, this is it. We are discussing the commenter rather than the subjects of the posts. I'll allow one more response before I limit the commenter's activity on JTO.
DeleteFelony Arrest Warrants issued, and no statement from Metropolitan Nicholas or his henchman Arch Priest Father Mark Mancuso. Mathew Williams Still a priest... and apparently he has gone Rouge or his Metropolitan has not told him to turn himself in. Is he running?
ReplyDeleteHOw is he still a priest this is reducilous
DeleteHe and Nicholas go way back... Roommates in school, like that..
DeleteMATT AND THE METROPOLITAN WERE ROOMMATES?!?!?!
DeleteSure we're!
DeleteWhat on Earth? How do you know this? Do you have any further details? This is a detail I’ve not heard before and adds yet another layer if true. Had no idea they “went way back”
DeleteIf Matthew Williams word is worth anything it’s when he likes to talk about his connections within the church.
DeleteHe didn't exactly keep it a secret
DeleteSo the guy ultimately in charge of the church investigation of Matthew Williams was his roommate in seminary. Holy cow.
DeleteThis is insane intel. Editor, why aren't you covering this?
DeleteBecause editor is only interested in bashing Elizabeth. And ROCOR has lawyers, I'd guess.
DeleteThat makes sense! He's probably crossed the line into defamation several times by now.
DeleteI hope she has a lawyer and I hope they saw his "commentary" he posted a few days ago. He seems less interested in helping capture matthew and bring him to justice than complaining about Elizabeth.
DeleteIt'll be interesting to see how this all eventually resolves.
Anon @10:44. I just saw this info in the comments, as you did. Contrary to what detractors such as Anon @ 10:52 may assert, I prefer to have documentation, verified sources, and other proof before posting. Case in point is the 2019 emails JTO received from FMW's son-in-law, in which he testifies that he and the family notified Bishop Nicholas of the sexual misconduct at that time. JTO welcomes any submission of documentation (photos, links. letters, screenshots, texts) and will even post an article by a JTO reader once vetted and verified.
Delete...As for Anon 11:05-- Your veiled thread of legal action to silence JTO and others is not new. JTO and any victim would welcome a lawsuit or contact from ROCOR lawyers. Such action would allow the ROCOR hierarchy to be deposed, forcing them to account for their actions or lack thereof regarding known sexual predators in their ranks and the intentional cover-ups. JTO took legal action against a commenter and succeeded. The person's blog, which was dedicated solely to disinformation and lies about the JTO editor, is gone and the commenter has disappeared from the internet. So, been there, done that. You can take your lies and attempt at intimidation somewhere else. You got the wrong guy for that.
DeleteUsing the "report" button is not legal action.
DeleteLmao, sounds like the “not so anonymous” source is back in the comments. Libel and Slander? For that to happen you have to prove what Elizabeth is wholly true.
DeleteFunny part is in that same commentary she mentions another God daughter of theirs who wasn’t on peoples radar, odd that the Stephen’s girl was also their God daughter?
How are people not seeing patterns.
You didn't even know who the current Metropolitan of ROCOR is. I think they got to you.
ReplyDeleteRed Herring and you did not finish your reading assignment.
Delete1. What are you accusing the editor of?
Delete2. How does this add to the conversation?
Thank you, Anon@ 10:35. The commenter is using Red Herring and ad hominem tactics to prevent having to discuss the posted topic. It is not uncommon in a forum like this, but it is an interesting study of the psychology of human nature. I never answer ad hominems and always redirect to the topic at hand.
DeleteHe used to talk about the bad things ROCOR was doing, but now he’s stopped—even though those problems are still happening. That’s not brave.
DeleteExactly how has he stopped? Explain
DeleteAnon @ 11:05 I hope so too because then they’d have to look into the Carole Stephens situation.
ReplyDeleteGood! Open the books. Hilarion forced a cover-up years ago, no more of that.
DeleteAnd that the law will bring accountability to all individuals that lied, coerced, silenced, or ignored abuse and the victims.
DeleteI am eager for that to happen so y'all can have some peace.
DeleteArrested.. Washington Co VA. Abington jail.
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